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[reldnahkram]

Rank the following leagues by percentage of teams that have won the championship in the last 30 years. No cheating. Where there's been expansion, I'm using the current number of teams. For UEFA, I'm using the number of teams that make it to the group play round each year (yeah, yeah, it's not a true league - deal with it).

Major League Baseball (USA/CAN)
National Football League (USA)
National Basketball Association (USA/CAN)
National Hockey League (CAN/USA)
Nippon Professional Baseball (JAP)
Premier League (ENG)
Fußball-Bundesliga (GER)
La Liga (SPA)
Serie A (ITA)
UEFA Champions League (EUR)

In the three leagues with an unawarded championship (MLB 1994, NHL 2005, Serie A 2005), the teams winning the championship 31 seasons ago have all won a championship since then.

EDIT: If you don't feel like untangling the soccer leagues, you can just rank the North American leagues, but you're weak for not trying.

Comments

[uncleamos]

Pfft, beats me.

[jdh92.livejournal.com]

Ok I'll take a crack at it. Going in decreasing percentage order, keeping in mind that I know very little about European soccer:

MLB
Serie A
NFL
NPB
Champions League
NHL
Bundesliga
La Liga
NBA
Premier League

You actually mentioned how bad the NBA was at one point, so that might be cheating

[think-too-much.livejournal.com]

My guesses (guaranteed wrong for most of the footy leagues)

Nippon (just because there are so few teams)
NFL
MLB
UEFA
Serie A
NHL
Foosball
La Liga
NBA
Premier

Re: You actually mentioned how bad the NBA was at one point, so that might be cheating

[think-too-much.livejournal.com]

Oh, shoot, I remember how this went now.

Switch NFL and MLB. Dammit.

[ajacs.livejournal.com]

In order from most monolithic (dominated by a small number of teams) to the most diverse:

Premier League (ENG)
Serie A (ITA)
Nippon Professional Baseball (JAP)
La Liga (SPA)
Fußball-Bundesliga (GER)
Major League Baseball (USA/CAN)
National Hockey League (CAN/USA)
National Basketball Association (USA/CAN)
National Football League (USA)
UEFA Champions League (EUR)

The fact that UEFA isn't actually a league isn't the only problem with including it; they've only been doing the tournament for I think just under 20 years. Similar problems for at least the Premiereship, if not the other European ones. Perhaps you can count the total teams that have competed? For example, something like 40 teams have competed in the EPL, but only 20 at a time. Count all 40? Or some fraction thereof? Swindon Town could count for like 1/10th of a team, Norwich City 1/4?

I'm completely guessing on German football and Japanese baseball, and my knowledge of domestic hockey pre-1995 or basketball at any time are pretty shaky, so they are little better than guesses.

When do we get the answers?

[reldnahkram.livejournal.com]

The first UEFA championship was awarded in '56; the NBA and NPB started around 1950. I included English First Division results pre-'92. La Liga and Seria A date back to the late '20s, and the Bundesliga to the early '60s.

Dealing with relegation would have made the math much more difficult. As it is, the Euro leagues are just a few points behind the NHL and the NFL, and I think if the Euro leagues had 30 teams, they'd be right there with them.

Really, this is all about beating up on the NBA.